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#0, distributive law
Posted by JJe (Guest) on Jul-20-01 at 09:35 PM
Hi!

I was reading this page on this site: . At the bottom, there is a proof for the distributivity of multiplication over addition for natural numbers. However, I think there is a step that seems suspect, that is:

x*(y+z) + x = (x*y + x*z) + x

That step looks like it uses the very thing which is being proven here. Is it so, or am I overlooking something rather trivial?

Currently, I'm a third-year student of theoretical physics in university, so I think I should know enough to understand this.

JJe
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#1, RE: distributive law
Posted by alexb on Jul-20-01 at 09:47 PM
In response to message #0
>However, I think there is
>a step that seems
>suspect, that is:
>
>x*(y+z) + x = (x*y + x*z) + x
>
>That step looks like it uses
>the very thing which is
>being proven here. Is it
>so, or am I overlooking
>something rather trivial?

Yes. The proof of the distributive law is by induction in z.
Just before that derivation I say, "Let M be the set of all z for which the Law holds. We just saw that, by Definition 2, 1 is in M. Let z be in M. Then ..."

At this point we do not know yet whether the law holds universaly, but do know that it holds for 1 and have assumed that it also holds for z - a specific but arbitrary number, which means that

x*(y+z) = x*y + x*z

by our assumption. From here it follows, as the derivation you pointed to shows, that

x*(y+z') = x*y + x*z'

and, by induction, it holds for all numbers.

>Currently, I'm a third-year student of
>theoretical physics in university, so
>I think I should know
>enough to understand this.

That's OK. I think I should have mentioned that the proof is by induction. Sorry.